[Pdns-users] DiG _trace: no response, no fail, nothing

[stancs3]

Well, I managed to reverse the servers, and get them working.

DiG now works for +trace.

The auth server also seems to be working.

One new quirk:

DiG to my domain NS sends back the NS records but not the A records,
whereas all records came back when the auth server was on top.

But the auth nameserver seems to still work, as I can ping at the
client level using the host name that is defined in the A record in the
auth server.

Not sure if this is pointing to another problem, or it is simply
working.


Stan


On Thu, 2017-02-16 at 21:40 -0700, stancs3 wrote:
> Thanks for the quick reply.
> 
> Yes, I did see this info at one point, and so I tried briefly to run
> the recursor in front on its own, but I have not got it working yet.
> 
> Also,I did try the auth pdns as a recursor itself as I figured it
> should work as an integrated server. But, I got the exact same
> results
> - i.e. zero response to +trace.
> 
>    -------------------------------------------------
> 
> Stepping back, is it not a doable config to have a private auth
> server,
> that hands off to a recursor, all internal, private?
> 
> If not, then at least I do need the auth server, so I can get basic
> name serving for my internal network.
> 
> Would I then simply send all my recursive queries to my router's dns,
> as is now the case? i.e. more nameservers listed in resov.conf of
> clients.
> 
> Clearly neophyte questions re dns. Feel free to point me somewhere,
> but
> so far all 'tutorials' have led me here.
> 
> The frustrating part is that most comprehensive dns documentation is
> releative to BIND. I have been close to taking a break from pdns and
> start over with BIND to learn things better. But, then pdns begins to
> work so nicely it seems...... :). I hope to hear back ....
> 
> 
> Stan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2017-02-16 at 21:04 -0700, David wrote:
> > 
> > On 2017-02-16 6:29 PM, stancs3 wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I have seen this problem posted in various places over the years.
> > > It is
> > > not clear if it is a bug, a bad config, or just non-functional.
> > https://github.com/PowerDNS/pdns/issues/4353
> > 
> > In your case (auth pointing to recursor) is a fairly broken config
> > to 
> > begin with, so this may be unlikely for you to get working. In
> > order
> > for 
> > auth to respond to "NS ." without recursion you'd have to host the
> > root 
> > zone on there.
> > 
> > Recursor in front and forwarding your internal zones to auth
> > would  work 
> > (most) of the time unless your cache doesn't have the root primed
> > already.
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > My set up:
> > > 
> > > VM running Centos 7, up to date.
> > > pdns install using postgresql db.
> > > pdns-recursor install.
> > > 
> > > pdns is running as an authoritive ns, standalone, replicated via
> > > postgresql to a second VM, pretty much identical.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > pdns is set with recursor=local-address:5300
> > > 
> > > pdns-recursor is set with local-address equal to pdns local-
> > > address
> > > above
> > > 
> > > pdns-recursor is set with local-port equal to pdns 5300 above.
> > > 
> > > It all seems to work.
> > > 
> > > The authoritive nameserver is private, and is populated with a
> > > few
> > > records which work.
> > > 
> > > The recursor is being tested with DiG. (and with typical
> > > surfing).
> > > I have verified that the VM has no other dns function working in
> > > parallel.
> > > 
> > > All DiG commands so far work with the exception of +trace.
> > > 
> > > I have logs running, and can easily see logs generated for DiG
> > > commands that work.
> > > 
> > > I have attached a console example. The logs and console indicate
> > > that the DiG command with +trace doesn't fail; it just doesn't
> > > even
> > > respond.
> > > 
> > > If I target the same DiG +trace command at my router's dnsmasq,
> > > it
> > > responds as expected with a whole bunch of trace info.
> > > 
> > > I have tried for days/hours with all variations I can think of
> > > and
> > > all manner of surfing for solutions. If there were failure logs
> > > it
> > > would help, but absolutely zero logs with the +trace command is
> > > issued to pdns.
> > > 
> > > I have also dumped my cache and it has many NS records.
> > > 
> > > I am tempted to simply ignore this and just use the thing as it
> > > seems to work. I only tried DiG +trace to see how it all
> > > works......
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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