<html><head></head><body><div>On Fri, 2019-07-19 at 14:52 +0000, <a href="mailto:bryantz-pdns@zktech.com">bryantz-pdns@zktech.com</a> wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Alan</div><div><br></div><div>Where we are getting into issues is that customers we host e-mail servers for are having issues as some email service providers appear to be forcing their reverse lookups directly against our powerdns servers.</div><div><br></div><div> I don't know why they are doing this, but we get complaints that because we only host the fake reverse lookup to handle the forward from our upstream data center. These servers think there is no reverse lookup. </div><div><br></div><div>Did we make a mistake with using powerdns where it does not support recursive queries. We thought this would be great for security and performance, but now it looks like it is biting us as we can't pass the query to our upstream to get passed back. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'm not sure why you're seeing problems. You should get rid of the multiple PTR records and see if that helps. 1 IP address, 1 PTR - lots of software will query PTR and only use the first result, and you can't control ordering. And actually, I'm looking at your forward zone and mail.granddial.com doesn't have an A record, it's also a CNAME. I would suggest that your single PTR should point to the one true name of the server, which in this case appears to be customermail.granddial.net.</div><div><br></div><div>Otherwise I don't see how remote servers would even find your servers to query unless they're following the CNAME, so your problem as described doesn't seem to make sense. You might need to track down further what's really happening. I guess in the worst case you could just ask your upstream to put real PTR records in their reverse zone for any hosted mail servers instead of CNAMEs.</div><div><br></div><div>Having separate authoritative and recursive DNS is best practice and also has nothing to do with any issues you're seeing, I don't think. I mean I don't see how running BIND in this situation would have any different result. Any real queries coming in wouldn't have the recursion desired flag set anyway.</div></body></html>