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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I’d say google is talking to the one that answers, and caches that.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">63.238.139.235 (gslb-ns1.toyota-na.com) definitely has issues</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">- Brian Menges</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Principal Engineer, DevOps @ GoGrid, LLC.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> pdns-users-bounces@mailman.powerdns.com [mailto:pdns-users-bounces@mailman.powerdns.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Todd Smith<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'pdns-users@mailman.powerdns.com'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Pdns-users] Recursion issue--SERVFAIL then NOERROR totally at random</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Georgia","serif"; color:#1F497D">Hey Brian,<br>
<br>
That would make perfect sense, and I was thinking along similar lines, but if that’s the case, why do I get a consistent NOERROR when using Google DNS? Google’s cache perhaps?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">root@yoshi:/# dig toyotasupplier.com @8.8.8.8
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">; <<>> DiG 9.8.4-rpz2+rl005.12-P1 <<>> toyotasupplier.com @8.8.8.8</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">;; global options: +cmd</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">;; Got answer:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 35779</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">;; QUESTION SECTION:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">;toyotasupplier.com. IN A</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">;; ANSWER SECTION:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">toyotasupplier.com. 21594 IN A 12.169.52.71</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">;; Query time: 30 msec</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">;; WHEN: Tue Sep 9 12:34:43 2014</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 52</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">root@yoshi:/# dig toyotasupplier.com @208.88.248.27</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">; <<>> DiG 9.8.4-rpz2+rl005.12-P1 <<>> toyotasupplier.com @208.88.248.27</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">;; global options: +cmd</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">;; Got answer:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 29841</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">;; QUESTION SECTION:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">;toyotasupplier.com. IN A</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">;; Query time: 49 msec</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">;; SERVER: 208.88.248.27#53(208.88.248.27)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">;; WHEN: Tue Sep 9 12:35:02 2014</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 36</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Georgia","serif"; color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Georgia","serif"; color:#1F497D">-T</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:pdns-users-bounces@mailman.powerdns.com">
pdns-users-bounces@mailman.powerdns.com</a> [<a href="mailto:pdns-users-bounces@mailman.powerdns.com">mailto:pdns-users-bounces@mailman.powerdns.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Brian Menges<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 09, 2014 12:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'pdns-users@mailman.powerdns.com'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Pdns-users] Recursion issue--SERVFAIL then NOERROR totally at random</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I’d say it’s on Toyota’s end:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">$ dig toyotasupplier.com +short @gslb-ns1.toyota-na.com</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D"><<>> DiG 9.7.3 <<>> toyotasupplier.com +short @gslb-ns1.toyota-na.com</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D"> ;; global options: +cmd</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:#1F497D">connection timed out; no servers could be reached</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Their other DNS server works fine… several attempts to reach the first one however fails (haven’t gotten a success yet).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I’d say it’s their problem.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">- Brian Menges</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Principal Engineer, DevOps @ GoGrid, LLC.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:pdns-users-bounces@mailman.powerdns.com">
pdns-users-bounces@mailman.powerdns.com</a> [<a href="mailto:pdns-users-bounces@mailman.powerdns.com">mailto:pdns-users-bounces@mailman.powerdns.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Todd Smith<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 09, 2014 9:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'pdns-users@mailman.powerdns.com'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Pdns-users] Recursion issue--SERVFAIL then NOERROR totally at random</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Hey guys,<br>
<br>
I’ve been having a problem with recursion. For some reason, certain domains seem to throw SERVFAIL errors when dug most of the time, but then NOERROR with a correct response at other random times. For example:<br>
<br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">root@yoshi:/# dig toyotasupplier.com</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">; <<>> DiG 9.8.4-rpz2+rl005.12-P1 <<>> toyotasupplier.com</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; global options: +cmd</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; Got answer:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 2636</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; QUESTION SECTION:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;toyotasupplier.com. IN A</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; Query time: 0 msec</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; SERVER: 208.88.248.25#53(208.88.248.25)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; WHEN: Wed Sep 3 13:36:33 2014</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 36</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Georgia","serif"">And then, a few hours later:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">root@yoshi:/# dig toyotasupplier.com</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">; <<>> DiG 9.8.4-rpz2+rl005.12-P1 <<>> toyotasupplier.com</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; global options: +cmd</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; Got answer:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 56751</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; QUESTION SECTION:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;toyotasupplier.com. IN A</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; ANSWER SECTION:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">toyotasupplier.com. 18296 IN A 12.169.52.71</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; Query time: 1 msec</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; SERVER: 208.88.248.25#53(208.88.248.25)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; WHEN: Thu Sep 4 10:39:38 2014</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 52</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Georgia","serif"">And then, a few hours later still:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">root@yoshi:/# dig toyotasupplier.com</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">; <<>> DiG 9.8.4-rpz2+rl005.12-P1 <<>> toyotasupplier.com</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; global options: +cmd</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; Got answer:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 5171</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; QUESTION SECTION:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;toyotasupplier.com. IN A</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; Query time: 3017 msec</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; SERVER: 208.88.248.25#53(208.88.248.25)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; WHEN: Fri Sep 5 07:50:25 2014</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 36</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Georgia","serif"">All without making a single change.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Georgia","serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Georgia","serif"">I have been working on debugging this for two days now and absolutely cannot pinpoint a source for the issue. I’ve increased the max query lengths, the recursor’s network and
client TCP timeouts, restarted the service several times on several of our DNS servers, and nothing I do seems to fix it. It of course doesn’t help that the bug is a bit of a gremlin and keeps mischievously disappearing at random (and in fact never, to my
knowledge, happened before until about a week ago, when it started to occur for no apparent reason). Any idea on what could be causing this? FWIW, when I run
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">dig toyotasupplier.com ns</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Georgia","serif""> it consistently works fine:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Georgia","serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">root@yoshi:/# dig toyotasupplier.com ns</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">; <<>> DiG 9.8.4-rpz2+rl005.12-P1 <<>> toyotasupplier.com ns</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; global options: +cmd</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; Got answer:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 39522</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; QUESTION SECTION:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;toyotasupplier.com. IN NS</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; ANSWER SECTION:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">toyotasupplier.com. 50741 IN NS gslb-ns2.toyota-na.com.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">toyotasupplier.com. 50741 IN NS gslb-ns1.toyota-na.com.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; Query time: 1 msec</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; SERVER: 208.88.248.25#53(208.88.248.25)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; WHEN: Fri Sep 5 07:49:29 2014</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 92</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Georgia","serif""><br>
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Many thanks in advance,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Todd W. Smith<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Georgia","serif"">2331 East 600 North</span></p>
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